Episode 7: World’s Okayest Mom with Cheriene Griffith
Celebrate Mother's Day with one of our favorite Bad Mommys, Cheriene Griffith, self-proclaimed World's Okayest Mom. Find out how Cheriene went from piloting Navy ships to directing Operations for Cannabis businesses in Northern California.
What makes Cheriene World's Okayest Mom? Is it her rambunctious 7 year old daughter, Aurora? Her passion for that perfect 3mg edible? Her Food Scientist + MBA chutzpah? Or the fact that when she discovered pebbles in Aurora's diaper, she thought to herself, 'Look at that! Apparently it goes all the way through.'
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Lalita Khosla: Welcome back to The Bad Mommy Experience your guide to the best people products and practices in cannabis 2.0. I'm Lalita Khosla, founder of Bad Mommy Edibles a microdose chocolate brand for moms and those who love moms based in California, and coming soon to a dispensary or delivery service near you. So you might be wondering what is cannabis 2.0 it's today's elevated cannabis experience. You might remember the days of cannabis 1.0 when this beautiful plant was stigmatized and demonized and relegated to the shadows, illegal to purchase and scary to imbibe because you never really knew what you were getting. Fast forward to today, where you could shop for cannabis in a beautiful dispensary, or scroll through an elegant website and order microdose lab tested products right to your door.
That's The Bad Mommy Experience we'd like to introduce you to now in case you're wondering, what is a Bad Mommy podcast? Well, it's basically a series of free wheeling conversations with people that I've met in the cannabis world. And that includes both customers and creators. It's just honestly such a great self selecting group of people that I just have to share. Even though I am Indian and I look like a play a doctor on TV, I have really not a doctor. So any information you learn about cannabis in this podcast is definitely here to help you. But please do discuss any new program with your medical professional. So let's get started with today's guest. Hey, welcome back bad mommies and those who love bad mommies and I know our numbers are legion. Today we are celebrating the highest holiest holiday of Bad Mommy dumb. And that is Mother's Day and we have a fantastic mom on today. Cheriene Griffith thanks for joining us Cheriene thank you so much for having me. And Cheriene really gets what being a mom is all about because what is your unofficial mom title? sreen
Cheriene Griffith: I am the world's okayest mom at best really?
Lalita Khosla: I think you need to add that world’s okayest mom dot dot dot. And when you're really at the top of your game, then what kind of mama you Sorry, what's your second runner up title?
Cheriene Griffith: Yeah, I have a mug that says number 10 mom, because who really wants to shoot to be number one world's best anything? No a number 10 and, you know, you keep the bar kinda low.
Lalita Khosla: Maybe just thinking about number one is exhausting. Right? You just even thinking about being number one is exhausting.
Cheriene Griffith: Yeah, I mean, in my world for a long time for my for a long time is when I was a new mom. I'm like, Am I showered? Is she alive? We were there.
We're good. Yeah.
Keeping the goals nice and simple. Makes it a little bit more achievable. Because I'm okay. Yes. And I'm okay with number 10 because screw you number one. Whoever you are out there.
Lalita Khosla: Let somebody else be number one. Yeah, you know one of our our really our cornerstones of Bad Mommy is that life is messy. Life isn't perfect. Bring it on. Here I am. Right. What else can we do? Really? We can show up. We can just show up and and you know with love and whatever energy we can muster up that little thing alive. That's all we got it. Cool all the way up to number 10. Right. Tell me about your, your beautiful daughter.
Cheriene Griffith: Aurora. Right? Yeah, Aurora. She is absolutely beautiful. She is seven years old. She is red headed Leo and everything that comes with that. Totally toots to her own little little drum and is probably going to put me in a home someday. Honestly. We're already we're already we were only seven years old. I was like yeah, she's definitely gonna put me in a home. There's no doubt about it.
Lalita Khosla: And if she So is she tell me about that Leo personality? What kinds of things does that motivate her to do?
Cheriene Griffith: Oh, she just she she's very assertive she tends to her own drum and in every way, shape or form, you know? And is she's she's a little powerhouse. Like I'm convinced that someday she's going to be you know, an entrepreneur or a CEO of a company someday or in charge of a gig in prison or maybe simultaneous It might happen both at the same time, I don't know. The floor is open for Aurora, she can do whatever she wants. He has options, but she has that, you know, just inherent will to will her way through through the path of most resistance. I would like to add that, you know, I mean, there's she's the type of child that she's in a room full of 3000 of the correct things to do. And there's something hidden in the corner. And that's the one thing she is not supposed to touch. She will Beeline it right to that like, like, just like an entrepreneur, she'll go straight there straight to whatever it is that everyone else isn't looking at.
Lalita Khosla: Does she give you business advice? My son gives me business advice. He says, like, Mom, I told you, you should have made those chocolates stronger. And you know what he was right? Because now even though I make the caveats, and five and 10s I'm also now going to do a 20. Because that's what dispensary customers want. And so I was like, yeah, Sam, you will write again?
Cheriene Griffith: Yeah, no, she gives me she sees the world in a totally different light. You know, we all can be looking at something and and you know, taking photos of something. And she'd be like, Well, did you see that? That weird squirrel doing something and like behind the tree? And I'm like, how are you seeing all this? Like there literally was one time that we were at. We were at a cavern up at Shasta Lake are called Shasta caverns. And we were in the grand finale of the cathedral room, which is absolutely phenomenally gorgeous. And every and she looks at the guide. And she's like, what is that? And he's not supposed to shine the light on Bad's because you're blind them basically and so right. And so he he shined his light on whatever she was pointing at. And sure enough, it was a bad she found like there was one. I mean, there's nothing but darkness in that room. But there's apparently one of the darknesses she knew was a bat somehow. And I'm like, how do you see that? Like, she's she's incredible like that I love her to death. But again, I'm gonna put me in a home and probably She's the reason I drink a lot. And microdose a lot.
Lalita Khosla: So how did you come to be involved in this supremely challenging world of cannabis.
Cheriene Griffith: Um, I have the pathway less, less, less traveled. I was a was a was a military officer, actually. So you know, I did this whole overall thing where I wanted to be, you know, the next Top Gun pilot, and turns out that didn't work out. So I drove ships instead. So you know, pretty, pretty. Dead. You're a badass. Wow. And and when I got out, when I got out of the Navy, I, I just I transitioned to the food industry. And that was a pretty easy transition, because I was on like the compliance and regulatory side of food, making sure that everything that people we were selling to people was safe, and because food safety is a good thing. And then I went for my MBA. And during these these MBA programs, I was at Sonoma State, you know, there's always all those touchy feely talks of you know, we want to do with your life. Why are you taking these programs? Follow your passion? What is your passion and just all that that stuff that they really, you know, they keep asking the questions over and over again, I'm like, Can Can we just write another paper and get on with our lives? Thank you. I have a child at home. And I'm a full time mom, and I'm trying to do this MBA thing.
Lalita Khosla: And I'm really in touch with her feelings. So I don't need to be as in touch with my feelings right now.
Cheriene Griffith: I just found a rock in her diaper. She ate pebbles and I found a rock in our diaper. Can we please move on? Thank you. Did you really find a rocket? her diaper? Oh, my gosh. I'm like I'm changing her diaper. And I'm like, What the hell? I'm like, Oh, well, apparently it goes all the way through. She really does to her own or she really does.
Lalita Khosla: Now, in case you're wondering, what is a Bad Mommy podcast? It's basically a series of free wheeling conversations with people I've met in the cannabis world. And that includes both customers and creators. It's just honestly such a great self selecting group of people that I had to share. Wow. So look at your you've had a real interesting trajectory from military, Navy to corporate food science.
Cheriene Griffith: While I was there, somebody had asked, you know, would you transition to cannabis and I because you were in Sonoma oftedal. Right. Yeah, yeah. And I thought about it and I thought you know, it's not something I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with with tons and tons of different foods, but I'm very familiar with operations and processes. Wow. What a cool chance to get into a nascent industry. When am I going to see that again and again in my lifetime because it truly is an as an industry and completely disordered Nice and and has come and all sorts of fun challenges to deal with. And I said, Yeah, let's give it a go. And that was about three years ago, I guess. And so. But in Canada years, that means I've been in like for like 12. Because Canada time is doesn't match actual time. It's sort of maybe Einstein was onto something, it's relative
Lalita Khosla: To the theory of relativity with cannabis, and its intersections with business life, right? Yes. Yeah, I know, I've been doing this for six years now. And you know, more iterating on the product side, and really only entering the business when I moved here. But, you know, I moved here now, about exactly four years ago. So yeah, it's amazing how time becomes so elastic once you're in this industry, because nothing really ever goes as planned right?
Cheriene Griffith: Now, you can have plans and then you can just see them whooshing out the window. But that's kind of a cool thing. And anybody who's able to stay nimble that that's, then you're going to do well. And in cannabis, if you were if you were very, very, very structured and and can only kind of do things one way then then you may be struggling a little bit because I mean, yes, I mean, he just just in California alone, the regulations have changed so much that as soon as you get to feel go rage, they move, they move the goal line, like Okay, so we're gonna throw away you know, however many, you know, hundreds of 1000s of dollars of packaging because it's missing a word. Yeah, exactly. to California. Let's do that.
Lalita Khosla: Exactly. Or we're just gonna have to hire a lot of people to sticker over the current packaging, you know, painstakingly by hand. Yeah. Either way. You're paying a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So tell me you have I think the coolest title of anyone I know. Tell me about your latest gig in the cannabis.
Cheriene Griffith: Yes, I started with Canna craft as VP of production and then you and I worked together at the galley which was awesome. Right. And and now I'm at about flow cannabis company, which is up in Redwood Valley. And I'm the director of flower production.
Lalita Khosla: And who doesn't want a job title like that? Director of flower production. Let me tell you, we go through a lot of weed. So are they are they cultivators? I think they're vertically integrated that they flow Canada. We are we are
Cheriene Griffith: Yeah, we just, yeah, yeah, this this year, we're commissioning a farm as well as everything else. But we really pride ourselves on working with the, with the small farmers that really, really pave the way up here in the Emerald triangle for the rest of everyone else. Yeah, it's it's really, really, really great to be here.
Lalita Khosla: And for listeners who aren't Nortel oriented, what is the Emerald triangle? Exactly.
Cheriene Griffith: So it would be Mendocino County Humboldt County and Trinity county technically is the triangle. And that's
Lalita Khosla: Really the best the best flower in the world. Right. So you're directing, you really should be a director of best flower in the world.
Cheriene Griffith: And for real, it's not like the okay yes. Flower like my Dell, it's, it's the best flower. I mean, it's the best. It's a lot of flower. Yeah, it's indoors. So it's not it's not all the carbon emission stuff. It's sun grown from this beautiful California sun, beautiful climate, and amazing cultivators.
Lalita Khosla: Right, who so know what they're doing. They're just so inspiring, and probably super geeky, right? Yeah,
Cheriene Griffith: They paved the way for a lot for a lot of us like, Yeah, all these guys are legendary. You know, they're the ones who who give back to the land. Some of them did, you know, probably have a lot of them got rated at some point and all of them have somehow someway paved the way for what's now becoming a very formidable cultivation state.
Lalita Khosla: Right. Right. Right. So it is it's it's always very exciting to be here because you know, you're working with the best plant that if available to you. And that is super exciting. explained briefly for our listeners, what is, you know, it cannabis is complex and onboarding, it is especially complex as a user. What is the difference between indoor and sungrown? You know, a bad Mommy, we really pride ourselves on using the best ingredients. So we do use sungrown co2 extract, which means it's pretty much the healthiest cannabis, you can use, you know, and it is farmed using best practices, best organic practices. We unfortunately can't use that designation because it's federal and cannabis is still federally illegal, but it is how things are grown. So tell us a little bit about the difference between like an indoor grow, which is, you know, those pictures you've seen of these big indoor hot houses with 1000s and 1000s of plants and how does that differ with a sungrown farm?
Cheriene Griffith: So the sungrown I mean, they give me the obvious answers is one. One is inside a box under lights and one is under under actual sunlight. But when it comes in The quality of the product, I mean, there's a lot of debate as to what's better than than the other, but I mean, the indoor grows are a lot more controlled, because they, you know, they have huge irrigation systems that are part of the building and part of the complex, and then you have, and I don't know what they are, but you know, certain chemicals that will, that will, you know, ensure that you're getting the best price per square inch, because in all indoor grows they care about is how many dollars can I get per square inch? It's all about yield, right? All about all about how many plants can I get, that's it, you know, and then in you have the same thing as me, we're a business. So you know, these, these cultivators out here, they're doing the same thing. But, you know, instead of swapping out you know, rooms and rooms and, and moving things around from a mom room to this room to that room, you have it all separated out, and again, in the farmers here, you know, they turn the land, so you know, they're going to be swapping out back and forth between, you know, maybe they're going to do a vegetable garden, you know, to turn the soil over, and then they're going to put the cannabis in it. So it's all very regenerative, it's all way better than all as all the you know, the, the minerals and nutrients that it needs naturally, as opposed to, you know, synthetic way of bringing the nutrients in, and it's very sustainable, right and sustainable. It's so much better for the environment, you know, because these these indoor grows, I mean, the cannabis is okay. I mean, it's, it's, it's on par. But you know, how much energy does it take to to have lights going? 24? Seven, on that scale? Add water? It's a lot, you know, so the carbon footprint is, is pretty high on top, you know, on on, no on the planet itself, where you don't have that with sungrown.
Lalita Khosla: But also in terms of therapeutic quality is the difference between an indoor plant and I mean, is it like a hothouse tomato versus a tomato on the vine? Is it that kind of thing.
Cheriene Griffith: And you can get some pretty good quality stuff out out of out of indoor, you know, the the jury's still out on that. I've heard by four cases on both, you know, there's some people I work with, they're like, oh, it doesn't matter. And then other people I work with are very passionate. I mean, all really comes down to the genetics. What are the genetics of it? Right, and you know, and just just because we're doing a Bad Mommy thing, I have to point out my disdain for strain names. They're driving me absolutely insane. insane because people call these these strains of this flower. I'm like, how is this not attractive to kids? We're calling it ice cream cake. Exactly. I know. A Girl Scout cookie. I don't want to smoke an ice cream. Craig. I want to get fat on it. Give me a cream cake. I don't want to look away isn't there one called wedding cake? Two. There's wedding cake, birthday cake. And Girl Scout cookies. And it was like all this. How was the song attractive to kids? I don't understand. Yeah, just three names that I've seen are just crazy. I think I think one that just came by my my desk was Sapphire or something. It really sounded like a stripper name. And I'm like, whatever.
Lalita Khosla: Mostly, the stripper names are attractive to kids. But it's true. I use Girl Scout cookie. In my PSA tiva product. It's a great egg. It is an amazing strain. Yeah. But it's like, yeah, you don't want that to be on your packaging, and to have kids read it and decide it's for them.
Cheriene Griffith: So yeah, but i wanna i want to find out who was the person who originated the name. I mean, you know, you don't see like, you just don't, it's just like, why would you call a Girl Scout cookies, because, you know, the Association of the Girl Scout cookies is not going to be a fan of the fact that one of the most popular strains in America, it was named after them.
Lalita Khosla: But you know, I mean, this all predates regulation, right? And it's really like, I think a lot of the cultivators that kind of, you know, the stoner world is really a geeky world. And they they come up with these geeky names like Sour Diesel now, hopefully Sour Diesel doesn't appeal to kids. But I don't really even want to smoke Sour Diesel, but of course, it's a great variety, and I love it. But just looking at the name, it's like, why would I want to put Sour Diesel with my body? You know,
Cheriene Griffith: It's a Coca Cola was founded on cocaine. Oh, yeah. Right. That was a long time ago. And it won't be too much longer until a long time ago will be all this cannabis stuff that we're that we're, you know, pioneering now. Right, right, right.
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Cheriene Griffith: Okay, I am a really great mom at three milligrams down. I'm live see Yes, yes um THC, I'm relaxed, I'm not screaming at her I'm okay with her doing whatever it is that she's doing that normally I would twitch a little bit not so great at five milligrams really
Lalita Khosla: Small for for our newbies and enthusiasts will get it the difference between three milligrams of five milligrams THC potency, that's only two milligrams and that is a small difference. So how does that translate into your body for you?
Cheriene Griffith: Normally, it's a difference between you know, I'm kind of fun and we're doing dance parties, because that's kind of fun stuff to do. Because I mean, there's only so much I'm realizing, you know, when they're this little under this queue, there's only so much time you have before it's gone. You know, there's gonna be the day when she wakes up and I always say hey, I want to say hey, let's have a dance party and she'd be like, just give me my iPhone, I'm fine, whatever. Whatever sounds funny on TikTok without you. Yeah, she's gonna put me on TikTok and then I'm not gonna like that or but the five milligram is usually me passed out on the couch. And a funny example of that was maybe I did do that and, and her father came home at like, because he was working really late at night because he had to like work a double or something like that. And it was a good one or two in the morning or something. And he comes I can just see him over the couch like seeing if we were both were asleep. And I course was totally passed out because that's what five milligrams does. She was engaged in, still watching Animaniacs at to boarding and he's like, you need to go to bed. And to this day, she's still running around and one hidden nurse and I'm like, Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I did that. To a nurse at Kaiser, she did that. It was it was fantastic.
Lalita Khosla: Like it was 14 so I'm not familiar with that is that a show on Cartoon champion.
Cheriene Griffith: MDX is a show that was a cartoon when I was in the 90s when I was a teen and it was it was fun then and I happen to have the DVDs and so there's also some adult underlying tones on all of them. And
Lalita Khosla: Like she said Allah did the nurse get it that she said that to the Hello, nurse? No. She was a little too old. She probably thought what a lovely animated seven year old. Exactly. So self possessed. What you must be the world's okay. It's mom to have such a fabulous good.
Cheriene Griffith: Well, the nurses like she's alive. Good. Yeah, you're winning this game.
Lalita Khosla: So what were you you know, obviously, you have your a Navy background. Were you did you just start your cannabis exploration on a personal level when you entered the industry? And how did that inform your parenting at that time?
I just want the record to reflect that neither one of us is microdose right now. So maybe that question came off as too serious. I'm
Cheriene Griffith: Not sure who did it. Oh, it's good. So she's she's a little enough that right now. It's just medicine at this point in time. And you know, like my child was born in wine country and she on more than one occasion to strangers or to her friends will blast out. My mom drinks a lot of mommy juice. I'm like, thanks for telling the grocery clerk and that wine the best. You know, and God bless her little soul. There was one day when I was working before for a startup called Shibu. You know, it was we had just launched the plant and I was working some pretty massive hours to to actually pull pull off what we were trying to pull off and I came home and I just I sat down on one of her little chairs near the floor and I just kind of slumped down and she brought a wineglass to me, she said Mommy, I think you need some money do you get making your my wine country baby and I love you so much for that. Yes, yes, my sweet. Well, I must admit you probably have maybe maybe giving her signs and we're, you know, she's telling the public that her mom's an alcoholic, which I'm not.
Lalita Khosla: Right. Well, you know, at this point, that sort of mommy wine culture has become so entrenched it's almost conditioned. So I think all moms get a bit of matches at this point in time. You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which you know, and I'm really hoping cannabis goes that way because I love wine too, but I feel much better when I take my nights off wine and I just have you know, a five milligram chocolate. I feel much better. You sleep better. It's not asleep, disrupter like wine is for me.
Cheriene Griffith: I was I was already I was already a mom. And now I'm trying to figure out my microdose and this is how I figured out the three to five milligram thing for me because there was one instance where now for the for the record, I don't like arcades like I can't even really like except for Magic Mike I don't like Vegas. In the show Magic Mike is fabulous. All your mommies out there? Yes, absolutely. I took my mother to see it. It was fabulous. It was the best night that we've had in a long time. Go see Magic Mike. He was amazing. Um, but so so there was a birthday party at an at an arcade and I had popped a couple what I thought were were were lower dose ones and good hour and a half into it. I'm like, ah, I love whack a mole. Like, oh, crap. I'm a little over the edge. I'm I'm not a great mom right now. I'm in the bad mom zone. Because you couldn't leave the whack a mole table. Oh my god. I was like, This is so much fun. I'm like, wait a minute. I never have fun in arcades. Oh, I know what happened. Oh, boy. You're gonna have to drive her home because mommy's not gonna do that right now. At least I didn't have to do that. Yeah. So that was Wait, you said that to your mom. No, no, no, this was at a kiddo party. Okay, so yeah, you know, I said that to her dad. And I was like, you're probably going to drive her home, you know? And I was like, No, really, I hate kiddo parties. This is amazing.
Lalita Khosla: Well, that is that's it. That's what I call the kind of snow day effect of edibles, you know, because they do what how they are just like, so targeted, uh, taking the edge off and making things that usually would annoy you somewhat entertain it. And the you know, in addition to those sort of the classic things like, you know, if you have to do some chores, or some cleaning, you know, they make that stuff more entertaining, but they can also make your husband more interesting. I don't know, how does that how does it do that Cheriene is absolutely magic. Right. I mean, that Magic Mike should work that into this act. Absolutely.
But it is right it kind of disables the kind of twitchy irritation gene that I think a lot of us moms get reflexively because we're so hyper extended all the time. Right. And it's, I just know for me, I definitely have a short fuse. But if I pop an edible that completely goes away, it's it's like a patient's pill. You know,
Cheriene Griffith: It is like a patient's pill. Yeah. And when it comes to my mom, like you know, she's she's pretty old school and and wasn't receiving my career choices. He just like for stoners, just a bunch of stoners. And I was like, Well, yeah, but not really. And, and, and, but then she would follow it up in the same breath. The pain cream you have, do you have any more of it? Like, countless donors aren't so bad.
Lalita Khosla: I mean, I enjoy using stoner, you know, ironically, because that's one of the most interesting things about my experience in the industry is, I just meet so many professionals who are so cool. And I would never describe them as stoners at all.
Cheriene Griffith: You know, not Oh, no, no, it's it's changing a lot. You know, the, I mean, there are some are still some pretty old school people. Like, I don't think you're ever sober. And that's okay. That's okay. For you. As long as you're functioning, that's fine. But right. If it was, for us a lot of great talent entering the industry that yes, they, they enjoy cannabis a little bit, but they certainly don't look that part, you know, right. You know, I highlight, you know, Bill silver, he was the Dean of Sonoma State. And then he became the CEO of Canna craft, like, clearly,
Lalita Khosla: He's not that category, you know, right. Right. Right. Right, right. Or we can always have our wink wink term that I use, which is highly functional, you know, with air quotes. But it is actually you know, now that I've been doing meeting dispensary buyers to launch the product, it is something that buyers use to describe something, you know, when they're because for instance, I don't really smoke a lot of flour. So I was in cbcb in Berkeley, and I said, Hey, I don't really smoke a lot of flour, but what would you recommend? And they gave me I can't remember what what strain it was, but they said, this is really good. It's very functional. So I thought that was kind of an interesting distinction, you know, that you wouldn't necessarily expect because for me, THC is really about decompression. I'm not looking to it for functionality per se. So I thought that was like an interesting marker. Really.
Cheriene Griffith: Yeah. And for a newbie like me, I'm I can just have a The one that says will not make you catatonic on couch. Yeah, no couch lock. Because that was one of my first my first experience in cannabis, which was actually before I got into the industry, you know, somebody gave me half a cookie, and then another half a cookie later, and then I didn't get up off the couch for 12 hours. And I was like, You did this to me, you're an evil person. And he's like, I forgot, I'm sorry, you probably gave me like, no crap, like 30 milligrams. And I was like, Oh my God, why would you do that?
Lalita Khosla: Well, you know, and this is one of my favorite pieces of advice to give people is don't take other people's advice. You know, you have to accept mine, of course, you have to know yourself, you know, my three commandments of cannabis is, know thy self, know thy product and know that I potency, you know, because with these three things, you really can onboard your experience in a pretty systematic way. And it is so much better than someone just handing you something and say try this. It's really light. It's great. You'll love it, you know, because one person's light is another person's catatonic. Everybody is so
Cheriene Griffith: Differently and more unsolicited advices is know that the potency that's listed on the bag, is plus or minus some. So if you're super sensitive, like me, that plus could be pretty significant. You know, not all that sensitive. That's not a big deal. And as more and more states rollout, understand that some states don't even test could be five milligrams could be 50. We'll see. Some states don't really test. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah, that is most most, most of the new ones rolling online. They do. But you know, states like Arizona for a long time there. They didn't even they didn't do any compliance testing.
Lalita Khosla: Wow. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. Whereas in California, we over test and then the problem is, is no standardization between labs. And that's why that's another reason why you have to know your product. Because a five milligram on one product can be very different from a five milligram at another. So what I tell people, and I'm happy to repeat myself, ad nauseum is, whatever the suggested serving size is on the product, take half, take half of the suggested serving. And if you end up disappointed because it was too late, then you're in a good place, then the next day, you take more, but you can't go back, right? It's like salt. You can't go back. If you put too much salt in. You can't go back if you take too much, right. So you just really want to be in a place where you're moving forward.
Cheriene Griffith: Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Stay Stay out of the stream on the couch zone. Right, exactly.
Lalita Khosla: So what is cannabis 2.0 it's this whole new, wide, wonderful world of regulated lab tested products. And we're here at Bad Mommy to guide you to the best people products and practices in this marketplace.
Cheriene Griffith: There was a quote from a great show called The oblongs is one season thing that was a cartoon way back in like the 90s and early 2000s. And the the lead the lead Mom, you know, she was she was definitely an alcoholic and she was passed out all the time. And this is at one point. And to this day, I love this quote she's she's you know, looking at her daughter in the morning and she's a sweetie. I'm on day three of a five day hangover, you're just gonna have to take it down a couple notches for me because because we're not done with the hangover yet. So I chose either to you know, if I'm laid out on the couch for 12 hours, I'm like, sweetie, I'm not getting up for quite a while so you can you can just keep on keep on doing what you're doing.
Lalita Khosla: Well, what is that? Yeah, in honor of on Mother's Day, give me three three takeaways for moms on how they should introduce or talk about their cannabis use with their kids.
Cheriene Griffith: My biggest one is is and this is my true feeling and cannabis, which is why I'm still in the industry and still pretty passionate about it is for me, it's more of a medicinal thing. It's not really the party drug. It's not the replacement for the wine. It's it's truly you know, you know, for the CBD, like my aches and pains. I take a lot of CBD and it truly does help me honey, you can't touch this. This isn't ready for you yet. You know, this is this is mommy's medicine. And to and then and then when she gets older, there's gonna be some pretty honest conversations with her, Hey, you know, there's this thing and you know, to start talking about, you know, the different industries, there's the alcohol industry, there's the pharmaceutical industry and I'm probably gonna when when she's not bouncing off the walls and trying to trying to rule the world. You know, have that conversation with her. So, you know, let her know what it is while you're doing it. be brutally honest, I'm not sure I can come up with a third takeaway. My third takeaway is just a PSA announcement of you know, just be conscious that and to also let them know why it's getting locked up if you lock it up or if it's getting hidden or if it's not have access to them and this includes the animals because I accidentally told it loaded up my dog and that was bad was a bad day. Oh, that's really bad. Yeah, dogs not good. Also making me number 10. Yeah, Romney you're right here even to my quadrupeds I know. My bond my quad but your quadruped Ed made it out okay, right. Yeah, yeah, she's she's very food motivated. And unfortunately, she found a Carmel that had to hit the floor, which was which was not good. And I saw like licking away at something and I was like, Oh, my goodness. And she had a bad eight hours and then once she
Lalita Khosla: She's overdub she was she was good to go. Oh, maybe you could have tried Annie's trick and given her a can of coke I'm sure dogs love
Cheriene Griffith: I wouldn't work but but I did. I did pump or full of some pretty high CBD tincture to try and counteract it a little bit. Oh,
Lalita Khosla: Yeah. And that is a good tip. Everybody. Yeah, absolutely. CBD will bring down the THC high. And you know, ideally, if you have a tincture you want to an alcohol because that absorbs quicker. Your mouth treats it you know. It goes through your mouth membrane more easily than a tincture in oil, the tincture through oil, you end up digesting it. So it takes two hours, which is something I just learned. And it is really interesting because I always wondered, why does some tinctures, you know, why is their onset quicker than other tinctures? It didn't make any sense to me.
Cheriene Griffith: It makes sense because they alcohol will fast track into the bloodstream and we think think how long it will take that three glasses or a bottle for me winded to your system. I mean, it happens pretty quickly. Right? Right. The lines in front of blood. Right? Right, exactly. So
Lalita Khosla: There you go. You have the scientific explanation. Now, do you does your kid know if you're microdose or not? Have you had to have that conversation with her in the moment?
Cheriene Griffith: No, No, she doesn't. She just I think it's more of his mommy in a good mood or bad mood. Bad barometer like like him? Am I yelling at her to put tears away? Put this away Put that away or am I like, man, we'll do it. We'll do it another time. Let's dance party.
Lalita Khosla: And that is a great note to end everybody. All moms and those who love moms. Take a three milligram edible and go have a dance party with your kid and your quadrupeds and whoever else wants to dance with you because life really should be about dancing
Cheriene Griffith: Right life is a dance you know the journey is is is the is the gift that we haven't and dance while you can. Yes dance.
Well, thanks for joining us Cheriene Happy Mother's Day to everybody. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's been an absolute blast.
Lalita Khosla: Thank you. So have a good one moms. And you know, go go to our show notes Bad Mommy Edibles.com slash podcast. And you can get all the little tips and tricks that we've given you in this episode. And definitely subscribe and share with all your friends. Thanks for joining us. Thanks Cheriene worlds. Okay, number 10. Mom. Yes,
Cheriene Griffith: Yes, the bar was low and I'm holding it fast. I'm not raising it. You're good girl. You are good. Have a great one.
Lalita Khosla: All right, take it easy. Okay, that's our episode for today. Thanks for listening. You can find us at badmommyedibles.com or on Instagram @BadMommyEdibles. Send us your questions to mommy@badmommyedibles.com. please consider subscribing and sharing with all of your Bad Mommy friends and your friends who also want to be bad mommies until next time. I'm your host Lalita Khosla, the original Bad Mommy.